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Sleeping Dragon
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 Posted: 18-May-2011 16:15 Post subject: External Missile Instalation |
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Well, I originally wanted this for a bit more realistic light vehicle construction (mainly VTOLs), but it might be used just about anywhere. The idea came from my attempts to wrap my mind around how the missiles could be believably represented on lighter VTOLs when I was toying with my Type 14 helicopter.. The fact that the thing grows ridiculously dangerous when you try to use it in large quantities is fine with me.
Externally mounted missiles are largely a thing of the past that has seen some renaissance with the advent of primitive designs across the IS. Refined and Perfected the system uses a semi independent fire control system to guide missiles, that are fired from external hard-points, which greatly reduces the weight and bulk of the missile launchers at the cost of overall safety.
External Fire Control System (EFCS) - 1 crit / item, 0,5 t*
EFCS is calibrated to emulate the targeting and tracking system of a standard missile launcher. When installing the EFCS pick one missile launcher the EFCS will emulate (like LRM 10). LRMs, SRMs and MRMs only. The FCS takes up one slot and 0,5 ton for every 10 missiles it guides. The location of the EFCS determines the firing arc of whole weapon system. Each EFCS can control only one ton of external ammo. EFCS is compatible with Artemis IV FCS, but each EFCS requires it's own Artemis IV FCS. Upon hit all unused external missiles assigned to the system are automatically dumped unless the system is disabled.
Externally Mounted Missiles - 1 crit / item, 1 t
To each EFCS is assigned one ton of SRM, LRM or MRM ammo. This ammo must be in the same location or in the location that neighbours with the location where EFCS is located. Upon suffering a hit to location containing external ammo roll 1d6 for each ton of externally mounted ammo on 1-2 nothing happens, on 3-5 1d6 salvos are lost to destroyed hard-points, on 6 the ammo explodes, which counts as a hit to the location from the weapon (LRM 20 ammo counts as a hit from LRM 20 and so on...). For each hit suffered this way roll another 1d6 to see the result. Chain reaction can be dangerous!
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JadeDragon
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| Posted: 25-May-2011 08:26 Post subject: External Missile Instalation |
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| Why would you choose LRM 20 ammo when the EFCS is limited to controlling 10 missiles?
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 25-May-2011 16:03 Post subject: External Missile Instalation |
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1 crit and 0,5 tons for every 10 missiles, so for LRM 20 you need 2 crits / 1 t, for MRM 30 3 crits / 1,5 t and so on...
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master arminas
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| Posted: 05-Sep-2011 18:21 Post subject: External Missile Instalation |
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I just let my VTOLs carry pods, much like ASF can. 1 pod for every 5 tons of mass; they loss 1 MP for for carrying 1-5 pod, 2 if carrying 6. Can't carry bombs; normal load is RL-10 pods. Other options might be a TAG pod, an MG pod, etc., etc.
Problem solved with a minimum of hassle.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 06-Sep-2011 14:11 Post subject: External Missile Instalation |
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Whoa... you mean that every pod packs 5 tons of equipment 4 SRM-2s and one ton of ammo, or how is this handled?
+ I didn't want that much to add weapons to current battletech models, but rather to replicate today's choppers, like the Apache for example - including weight, speed, arament and stuff.
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master arminas
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| Posted: 06-Sep-2011 14:25 Post subject: External Missile Instalation |
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No, no, really, but no!
The vehicle can carry 1 pod for every five tons that it masses. I.e., let's say you've got a Warrior H-7 which masses 21 tons. It can carry up to four pods, reducing its speed to 9/14 instead of 10/15.
A single pod carries roughly a half-ton of equipment: fuel, a 10-tube one-shot rocket launcher, an MG (which pushes the envelope, but isn't too out of line), cameras, and other junk. Normally, I just use the RL-10 pods on my VTOLs, which is much like modern choppers use Hydra pods for their rockets.
Now, technically Rocket Launchers are post 3058 equipment, but heck they are so simple in concept and construction I make them straight Level 1 (even though Catalyst doesn't use that term anymore) across the board. They make excellent add-on weapons for VTOLs, giving them a fairly formidable throw-weight (ONCE!).
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 07-Sep-2011 14:12 Post subject: External Missile Instalation |
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Oooh that way...
Well, it's still far from I wanted. RLs are useable without any change for me, but SRMs , LRMs, ATMs, Thunderbolts and other such systems were a problem.
If you look at modern choppers they carry something like 12 ATMs and two RL-15s and that is all. If I was to haul a full ton of ammo slung under my VTOL and the launcher, then I have 100 goddamned missiles cluttered all about!
If I want my VTOL to fly fast, pack some armour and still weigh something under 10 tons, I really don't need all that extra junk.
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master arminas
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| Posted: 07-Sep-2011 15:33 Post subject: External Missile Instalation |
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Try the Improved One-Shot Launchers; that could be what you are looking for.
SRM-2 (I-OS): 0.5 tons
SRM-4/LRM-5 (I-OS): 1.5 tons
I don't know if they make a one-shot (or improved one shot) ATM or Thunderbolt, but why not?
ATM-3 (I-OS): 1 ton
Thunderbolt-5 (I-OS): 2.5 tons
If you don't want a lot of ammo, this could be what you want.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 08-Sep-2011 00:40 Post subject: Re: External Missile Instalation |
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| master arminas wrote: | Try the Improved One-Shot Launchers; that could be what you are looking for.
SRM-2 (I-OS): 0.5 tons
SRM-4/LRM-5 (I-OS): 1.5 tons
I don't know if they make a one-shot (or improved one shot) ATM or Thunderbolt, but why not?
ATM-3 (I-OS): 1 ton
Thunderbolt-5 (I-OS): 2.5 tons
If you don't want a lot of ammo, this could be what you want.
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I know anout these, but they are still dreadfully inefficient, even the small ones.
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