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PostPosted: 08-Apr-2007 22:55    Post subject: Light mech contest Reply to topic Reply with quote

Okay here is the plan...build a 15 ton mech that can out run a Locust as well as match it in firepower. IS tech only, you can use Level 3 stuff in regards to things like the new stuff from the Tech Manual, like Light ACs and Light PPCs and Light MGs that are now aviable for the IS.

Fluff is welcome and encouraged, but not needed. So have fun and let's see what folks come up with!
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PostPosted: 09-Apr-2007 10:36    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

I have to admit to not bothering with fluff this time, since this is a little...unusual of a design for me. It's horrendously wasteful in terms of resources. And I think the name says it all.

BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model: Suicider
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Standard design

Mass: 15 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 135 Magna XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 97.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 151.2 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
2 ER Medium Lasers
1 Machine Gun
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)

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Type/Model: Suicider
Mass: 15 tons

Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 26 pts Endo Steel 14 1.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 1 HD, 3 LA, 3 RA, 3 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Engine: 135 XL Fusion 12 2.50
Walking MP: 9
Running MP: 14
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Double [20] 15 .00
(Heat Sink Loc: 3 LT, 2 RT)
Gyro: 4 2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 55 pts Standard 0 3.50

Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 5 8
Center Torso (Rear): 2
L/R Side Torso: 4 6/6
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 2/2
L/R Arm: 2 4/4
L/R Leg: 3 6/6

Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ER Medium Laser RA 5 1 1.00
1 ER Medium Laser LA 5 1 1.00
1 Machine Gun CT 0 100 2 1.00
(Ammo Locations: 1 CT)
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 10 66 15.00
Crits & Tons Left: 12 .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 2,010,200 C-Bills
Battle Value: 468
Cost per BV: 4,295.3
Weapon Value: 196 / 196 (Ratio = .42 / .42)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 9; MRDmg = 3; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 9, Armor/Structure: 1/1
Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/-, Overheat: 0
Class: ML; Point Value: 5
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PostPosted: 09-Apr-2007 12:24    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

My try with some impromptu fluff:
Code:

               BattleMech Technical Readout
                     Custom* Weapons

Type/Model:    Fuchs FH-1X
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3067
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Custom design

Mass:          15 tons
Chassis:       Coventry FH-I Endo Steel
Power Plant:   135 VOX Light Fusion
Walking Speed: 97,2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 151,2 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Lexington Limited High Grade Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:     
  2 Mydron Minigun B Light Machine Guns*
  1 Defiance Model XII ER Medium Laser
Manufacturer:  Coventry Metal Works
  Location:    Coventry
Communications System:  Cyclops 12
Targeting & Tracking System:  Cyclops 6

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==Overview:==
In 3067 Coventry Metal Works got the order to design an competitor to the
standard Locust.
It had to be faster, had to carry roughly the same firepower and had to be 25%
lighter too!
The designers soon find out that a standard engine would leave too little
weight to incorporate some serious armor and so went with an light engine.
The Mech was named "Fuchs" (Alliance's native Deutsch for "Fox") which
triggered some critics from strong anti-Davionists as it was the nickname of
Hanse Davion.

==Capabilities:==
The Fuchs is tipping the scales at a mere 15 tons and has a light speed
advantage over an old Locust. An ER medium laser gives it some more range as
do the new LMG, that in return have some less firepower but the designers
thought it would be worth it as this very light Mechs can maintain some
distance when firing them!
The armor had to be reduced by 15% despite carrying ferro fibrous plates.

==Variants:==
There are thoughts about some variants but no are being produced yet.
The -1X2 replaces the LMG's with two RL-10 and adds an ER small laser instead
of the ammo.
The -1X3 drops all weapons for two arm mounted ER small lasers and a torso
mounted ECM (-1X3A) or active probe (-1X3B).

==Deployment==
The first prototype is performing its first test runs on Coventry but so far
the LAAF hasn't given their Ok for full production!

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Type/Model:    Fuchs FH-1X
Mass:          15 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  26 pts Endo Steel            14      1,00
 (Endo Steel Loc: 7 LT, 7 RT)
Engine:        135 Light Fusion             10      3,50
   Walking MP:   9
   Running MP:  14
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    5       ,00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 HD, 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL)
Gyro:                                        4      2,00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3,00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA+H    R: Sh+UA+LA+H   16       ,00
Armor Factor:   54 pts Ferro-Fibrous        14      3,00
 (Armor Crit Loc: 7 LA, 7 RA)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          8     
   Center Torso:              5          8     
   Center Torso (Rear):                  2     
   L/R Side Torso:            4        6/6     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              2/2     
   L/R Arm:                   2        4/4     
   L/R Leg:                   3        6/6     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Light Machine Gun*     RA      0  100      3      1,00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 CT)
1 Light Machine Gun*     LA      0           1       ,50
1 ER Medium Laser        CT      5           1      1,00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                          5          73     15,00
Crits & Tons Left:                           5       ,00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        1.732.648 C-Bills
Battle Value:      356
Cost per BV:       4.866,99
Weapon Value:      96 / 96 (Ratio = ,27 / ,27)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 5;  MRDmg = 2;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 9,  Armor/Structure: 1/1
                   Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 4



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PostPosted: 10-Apr-2007 01:54    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Here you go.

I worked out the fluff in a few minutes. The notion seems unlikely, but vaguely possible.

I was going insane trying to pull this off until I bothered to read the original fluff, and remembered that the 1V, not the 1E, is the standard Locust.

P.S.
Why is there no head bonker emoticon? And why is that one icon near the bottom of the list ("view more emoticons") wearing a condom?

Edit: Changed the design on a whim, upon rereading Karagin's requirements.
               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Larval Locust LLCT-1V
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3055
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          15 tons
Chassis:       Endo Steel
Power Plant:   195 Nissan XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 140.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 216.0 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Standard
Armament:      
  3 ER Small Lasers
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
==Overview:==
The Larval Locust - as its name might suggest - is based on the original
LCT-1V Locust. Given the fact that Locusts are found practically everywhere,
the Larval Locust was intended as a comparison and demonstration 'Mech,
intended to impress Periphery militaries with the capabilities of modern
technology. It was hoped that the Larval Locust's abilities would be found so
impressive that cash poor Periphery nations would be willing to spend money on
new technology, despite its expense.

==Capabilities:==
Although five tons lighter, the Larval Locust is significantly faster than the
LCT-1V. While it lacks the range of the Locust's medium laser, the Larval
Locust can put out an amount of total damage comparable to the LCT-1V, and at
a still respectable range. It falls behind in armor and durability, though
sales reps generally try to downplay or avoid mentioning the XL engine's
vulneribility to internal damage.

==Deployment==
Only a few Larval Locusts have ever been built, by various BattleMech
producers. Unfortunately, few Periphery powers have been impressed enough by
the Larval Locust's abilities to spend the significant amounts of money
required for cutting edge technology.

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Larval Locust LLCT-1V
Mass:          15 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  26 pts Endo Steel            14      1.00
 (Endo Steel Loc: 6 LT, 3 RT, 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Engine:        195 XL Fusion                12      4.00
   Walking MP:  13
   Running MP:  20
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]               9       .00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 LT, 2 RT)
Gyro:                                        4      2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       .00
Armor Factor:   55 pts Standard              0      3.50

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:              5          8      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  2      
   L/R Side Torso:            4        6/6      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              2/2      
   L/R Arm:                   2        4/4      
   L/R Leg:                   3        6/6      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ER Small Laser         RA      2           1       .50
1 ER Small Laser         LA      2           1       .50
1 ER Small Laser         CT      2           1       .50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                          6          59     15.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          19       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        2,134,688 C-Bills
Battle Value:      355
Cost per BV:       6,013.21
Weapon Value:      73 / 73 (Ratio = .21 / .21)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 5;  MRDmg = 0;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 13,  Armor/Structure: 1/1
                   Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 4



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PostPosted: 21-Apr-2007 14:18    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

My goal was cheap but I could not beat Rudel. I think mine has more firepower. The Magshot is from Solaris.

THE GNAT, Be prepaed to swallow and gag, like the days as a child riding a bike.

BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model: Gnat GNT-AWAD
Tech: Inner Sphere / 0
Config: Biped BattleMech
Rules: Level 3, Custom design

Mass: 15 tons
Chassis: Endo Steel
Power Plant: 120 Light Fusion
Walking Speed: 86.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 129.6 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard

Armament:
2 MagShot Mechs*
1 ER Medium Laser
1 Rocket Launcher 10
Manufacturer:
Location:
Communications System:
Targeting & Tracking System:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model: Gnat GNT-AWAD
Mass: 15 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass

Internal Structure: 26 pts Endo Steel 14 1.00
(Endo Steel Loc: 4 LA, 4 RA, 3 LT, 3 RT)
Engine: 120 Light 10 3.00
Walking MP: 8
Running MP: 12
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 6 .00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 2 LL, 2 RL)
Gyro: 4 2.00
Cockpit, Life Support, Sensors: 5 3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA, R: Sh+UA 12 .00
Armor Factor: 40 pts Standard 0 2.50

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 4
Center Torso: 5 7
Center Torso (Rear): 1
L/R Side Torso: 4 5/5
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 1/1
L/R Arm: 2 3/3
L/R Leg: 3 5/5

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Weapons & Equipment: Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
1 MagShot Mech* RA 1 50 3 1.50
(Ammo Loc: 1 CT)
1 MagShot Mech* LA 1 2 .50
1 ER Medium Laser CT 5 1 1.00
1 Rocket Launcher 10 HD 3 1 .50
TOTALS: 7 58 15.00
Crits & Tons Left: 20 .00

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 1,733,625 C-Bills
Battle Value: 387
Cost per BV: 4,479.65
Weapon Value: 126 / 126 (Ratio = .33 / .33)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 15; MRDmg = 7; LRDmg = 2
BattleForce2: MP: 8, Armor/Structure: 1/1
Damage PB/M/L: 1/1/-, Overheat: 0
Class: ML, Point Value: 4
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PostPosted: 22-Apr-2007 20:42    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

Code:
               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    X-21 ¨Horned Locust¨
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3067
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Custom design

Mass:          15 tons
Chassis:       Endo Steel
Power Plant:   135 Light Fusion
Walking Speed: 97.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 151.2 [162.0] km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    Light Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:     
  2 Small Pulse Lasers
  2 ER Medium Lasers
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    X-21 ¨Horned Locust¨
Mass:          15 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  26 pts Endo Steel            14      1.00
 (Endo Steel Loc: 7 LA, 3 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
Engine:        135 Light Fusion             10      3.50
   Walking MP:   9 [10]
   Running MP:  14 [15]
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     10 Double [20]              15       .00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)
XL Gyro:                                     6      1.00
Small Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:          4      2.00
Triple Strength Myomer:                      6       .00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       .00
Armor Factor:   55 pts Light Ferro-Fibrous   7      3.50
 (Armor Crit Loc: 1 LA, 2 RA, 2 LT, 2 RT)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9     
   Center Torso:              5          7     
   Center Torso (Rear):                  3     
   L/R Side Torso:            4        5/5     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              3/3     
   L/R Arm:                   2        4/4     
   L/R Leg:                   3        6/6     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Small Pulse Laser      RA      2           1      1.00
1 Small Pulse Laser      LA      2           1      1.00
2 ER Medium Lasers       HD     10           2      2.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         14          78     15.00
Crits & Tons Left:                           0       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        2,290,800 C-Bills
Battle Value:      529
Cost per BV:       4,330.43
Weapon Value:      218 / 218 (Ratio = .41 / .41)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 11;  MRDmg = 3;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 9,  Armor/Structure: 1/1
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/-,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: ML;  Point Value: 5


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PostPosted: 23-Apr-2007 01:06    Post subject: Reply to topic Reply with quote

AWAD wrote:
My goal was cheap but I could not beat Rudel. ...

Hey! You are a mere 977 C-Bills over my price tag so I think it's a tie! Wink
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