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PostPosted: 11-Jan-2007 13:30    Post subject: A better Cicada... Reply to topic Reply with quote

               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Cicada CDA-3A
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 1, Standard design

Mass:          40 tons
Chassis:       Hartford 300 Standard
Power Plant:   280 Pitban Fusion
Walking Speed: 75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    3/Star Slab Standard
Armament:      
  3 Magna Mk II Medium Lasers
  1 Magna Mk III Large Laser
Manufacturer:  HartfordCo
  Location:    Bryant
Communications System:  Hartford J15 B
Targeting & Tracking System:  Hartford S1000

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Type/Model:    Cicada CDA-3A
Mass:          40 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  67 pts Standard               0      4.00
Engine:        280 Fusion                    6     16.00
   Walking MP:   7
   Running MP:  11
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     11 Single                    0      1.00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       .00
Armor Factor:   80 pts Standard              0      5.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             12         15      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  6      
   L/R Side Torso:           10        9/9      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4      
   L/R Arm:                   6        4/4      
   L/R Leg:                  10        8/8      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Medium Laser           RA      3           1      1.00
1 Medium Laser           LA      3           1      1.00
1 Large Laser            CT      8           2      5.00
1 Medium Laser           HD      3           1      1.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         17          32     40.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          46       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,332,934 C-Bills
Battle Value:      729
Cost per BV:       4,571.93
Weapon Value:      438 / 438 (Ratio = .60 / .60)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 13;  MRDmg = 5;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 7,  Armor/Structure: 2/3
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-,  Overheat: 1
                   Class: MM;  Point Value: 7


It has better firepower and armor than the others, and IMO, it takes a better advantage of the lighter engine than the 3C. This would give the locust a run for it's money.

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PostPosted: 11-Jan-2007 13:40    Post subject: RE: A better Cicada... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Hmm, not bad... The armor is not exceptional, but it should keep it safe for a while. If you don't need the speed that much then I would prefer the Wolfhound, but this 'Mech may be handy.

Scouts probably won't like it.


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PostPosted: 11-Jan-2007 17:02    Post subject: RE: A better Cicada... Reply to topic Reply with quote

What's wrong with the 3C?

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PostPosted: 11-Jan-2007 17:29    Post subject: RE: A better Cicada... Reply to topic Reply with quote

3C....3C....that the one wth the PPC, right? I like that one the best of the bunch, myself. this one has more weapons, but that PPC is murder to a light mech
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PostPosted: 12-Jan-2007 16:31    Post subject: RE: A better Cicada... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Well, the wolfhound is not available to every faction. Most factions own a Cicada. This one could work as a pair with the 3C, while the 3C snipes a 3A could close in for the kill. It is also fast enough to keep up with, or out run, most scouts in the era.

The large laser is there to put a hole in light armor much like the PPC on the 3C. Also, I designed this one to take a large laser or survive a direct AC20 blast.

Is it impressive, probably not, but it can get the job done where the locust can't in some scenarios.
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PostPosted: 12-Jan-2007 16:32    Post subject: RE: A better Cicada... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Nothing. I don't have luck with big guns.
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PostPosted: 12-Jan-2007 19:18    Post subject: RE: A better Cicada... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Maybe switching a heat sink or a laser...or maybe both, for a bit of armor would help.

Good start though...not to say that this couldn't be fielded as is, because it certainly could.

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PostPosted: 12-Jan-2007 19:56    Post subject: RE: A better Cicada... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Which faction is going to be using this upgrade/remod?

Some fluff would have been helpful...

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PostPosted: 12-Jan-2007 20:29    Post subject: RE: A better Cicada... Reply to topic Reply with quote

In design submissions I fluffed it as a variant that got discontinued because of a large laser flaw that damaged the engine.
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PostPosted: 12-Jan-2007 20:30    Post subject: RE: A better Cicada... Reply to topic Reply with quote

It is a good opportunity, I left the extra heat sink so it could be able to dissipate heat after two engine hits (that or walk away and stay level) and keep constant fire with the triple medium lasers.
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PostPosted: 13-Jan-2007 01:02    Post subject: RE: A better Cicada... Reply to topic Reply with quote

Does this do a little better?

               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Cicada CDA-3A
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3025
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 1, Standard design

Mass:          40 tons
Chassis:       Hartford 300 Standard
Power Plant:   280 Pitban Fusion
Walking Speed: 75.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 118.8 km/h
Jump Jets:     None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type:    3/Star Slab Standard
Armament:      
  2 Magna Medium Lasers
  1 Magna Mk III Large Laser
Manufacturer:  HartfordCo
  Location:    Bryant
Communications System:  Hartford J15 B
Targeting & Tracking System:  Hartford S1000

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Type/Model:    Cicada CDA-3A
Mass:          40 tons

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  67 pts Standard               0      4.00
Engine:        280 Fusion                    6     16.00
   Walking MP:   7
   Running MP:  11
   Jumping MP:   0
Heat Sinks:     11 Single                    0      1.00
Gyro:                                        4      3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA    R: Sh+UA             12       .00
Armor Factor:   96 pts Standard              0      6.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          9      
   Center Torso:             12         17      
   Center Torso (Rear):                  6      
   L/R Side Torso:           10      12/12      
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              4/4      
   L/R Arm:                   6        5/5      
   L/R Leg:                  10      11/11      

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Medium Laser           RT      3           1      1.00
1 Medium Laser           LT      3           1      1.00
1 Large Laser            CT      8           2      5.00
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                         14          31     40.00
Crits & Tons Left:                          47       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,290,934 C-Bills
Battle Value:      751
Cost per BV:       4,382.07
Weapon Value:      480 / 480 (Ratio = .64 / .64)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 12;  MRDmg = 5;  LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2:      MP: 7,  Armor/Structure: 2/3
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-,  Overheat: 1
                   Class: MM;  Point Value: 8
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PostPosted: 13-Jan-2007 05:56    Post subject: RE: A better Cicada... Reply to topic Reply with quote

It looks more like the original, so on the field... "What?" "That's just a Cicada..." *Kazzap* "Where have all the Stingers gone..."

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PostPosted: 13-Jan-2007 15:26    Post subject: RE: A better Cicada... Reply to topic Reply with quote

I'm thinking this is the way to go.

BUT

As much as I would hate to do it, I think I want to cut the armor down a ton and put on a heat sink. This way, you can do an alpha and not suffer that -1 movement penalty. Also, suffering two engine hits, you would be able to keep a constant run without overheating.
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