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Pinhead
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 Posted: 07-Nov-2005 08:29 Post subject: RE: Heavy Match-up. |
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Lack of back-up weapons on this Catapult would relegate it to support duties in any unit. But no such luck here. Carrying double the ammo reserves for it's LRM's, it must try to keep the Crusader's pilot at a distance. Here's the trick. Try to stay near your minimum. The Crusader would be hard pressed to get a hit off with it's short range weapons at a distance of 6-9 hexes. Which is short to medium range for the LRM's. Both mechs need to keep in motion. The Catapult to keep the distance at it's optimum and the Crusader to keep within the minimum range of the LRM's. It, as usual, comes down to initiative and lucky dice rolls. |
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I'd like to fight you some day, if that is your normal tactics.
If I am the Crusader pilot, I stay at long range until I get bored, running to keep my modifier up so that neither of us hits with any (or hardly any LRMs). Any round I am planning on firing at you, I will walk directly toward you if I can close to medium range (the only time I fire is if I get you to medium range with no more than a +3 modifier.
I make sure to use up all my LRMs relatively quickly, then charge your ass. To keep your distance, you will have to jump, and your to-hit numbers get all screwed up by that, more than my targetting numbers. If you are jumping, you are not going to hit me with very many missles, and you will run out fairly quickly.
Since LRMs sandpaper the armor off, you have to hit me alot to remove any significant amount of armor, and once you run out of missles, the CRU wins.
By the way, I HATE Crusaders, and really like the C1 Catapult, but this battle won't fly.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 08-Nov-2005 11:46 Post subject: RE: Heavy Match-up. |
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On 2005-11-05 22:22, Seraph wrote:
I posted this version of the Catapult just to see who was paying attention. 
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... and added a little mistification, eh? 
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On 2005-11-05 09:14, Seraph wrote:
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CRD-3R Crusader versus CPLT-A1 Catapult.
Both are 65 tons, both mount long and short range weapons packages. One is more mobile while the other mounts more close in weapons.
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[ This Message was edited by: Sleeping Dragon on 2005-11-08 11:47 ]
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 08-Nov-2005 11:49 Post subject: RE: Heavy Match-up. |
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On 2005-11-06 07:24, chihawk wrote:
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Not a chance.
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There is a chance, no matter how small 
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Beebles
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| Posted: 08-Nov-2005 14:36 Post subject: RE: Heavy Match-up. |
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Cain and I are going to play this one in megamek in a minute to see which we prefer.
He won the flip, so he gets the catapult.
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chihawk
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| Posted: 08-Nov-2005 15:38 Post subject: RE: Heavy Match-up. |
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On 2005-11-08 11:49, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
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On 2005-11-06 07:24, chihawk wrote:
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Not a chance.
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I thought I quoted the thunder portion of your first post....using thunder won't add anything to the Cat's chances.
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Nightmare
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| Posted: 08-Nov-2005 21:58 Post subject: RE: Heavy Match-up. |
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On 2005-11-08 14:36, Beebles wrote:
Cain and I are going to play this one in megamek in a minute to see which we prefer.
He won the flip, so he gets the catapult.
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I already tested it both ways against the 'bot. The Catapult got slaughtered both times. 
The 'bot wasn't even close to doing anything against me when it handled the Cat. It just sandpapered my armor while I got rid of all my LRM ammo and moved closer for the kill.
My turn with the Cat looked better, I even managed to get internal hits on the Crusader. Unfortunately no criticals on his leg. My loss was assured when my pilot blacked out after four head hits. Those SRMs are real killers.
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Sleeping Dragon
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| Posted: 09-Nov-2005 02:29 Post subject: RE: Heavy Match-up. |
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That would depend on terrain, but on normal map I agree that it wouldn't be much useful.
And you quoted whole post
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| Posted: 09-Nov-2005 06:10 Post subject: RE: Heavy Match-up. |
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On 2005-11-09 02:29, Sleeping Dragon wrote:
And you quoted whole post
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Yes, and I meant to quote only the thunder portion as that was the part I was commenting on.
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Rogue Penetrator
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| Posted: 21-Nov-2005 17:56 Post subject: RE: Heavy Match-up. |
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Crusader because if it gets in close or just outlasts the Catapult's ammo supply the fight is over.
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