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PostPosted: 21-Feb-2022 00:57    Post subject: Just Because You Can, Doesn't Mean … : Whitworth WTH-2X Reply to topic Reply with quote

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               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Whitworth WTH-2X
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3062
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          40 tons
Chassis:       Whitworth Type I Endo Steel
Power Plant:   160 LTV Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets:     4 Whitworth Jetlift Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor Type:    Durallex Light Light Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:     
  2 ER Small Lasers
  1 Arrow IV System
Manufacturer:  Whitworth Company
  Location:    Dieron
Communications System:  Garret T-14
Targeting & Tracking System:  Garret D2j

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Type/Model:    Whitworth WTH-2X
Mass:          40 tons
Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  67 pts Endo Steel            14      2.00
 (Endo Steel Loc: 4 LA, 6 RA, 4 RT)
Engine:        160 Fusion                    6      6.00
   Walking MP:   4
   Running MP:   6
   Jumping MP:   4
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    4       .00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 1 RA, 1 RT, 2 CT)
Gyro:                                        4      2.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA    R: Sh+UA+LA       14       .00
Armor Factor:  127 pts Light Ferro-Fibrous   7      7.49
 (Armor Crit Loc: 1 LA, 1 RA, 5 RT)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          8     
   Center Torso:             12         16     
   Center Torso (Rear):                  7     
   L/R Side Torso:           10      12/12     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              6/6     
   L/R Arm:                   6      12/12     
   L/R Leg:                  10      18/18     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
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1 ER Small Laser         RA      2           1       .50
1 ER Small Laser         LA      2           1       .50
1 Arrow IV System        LT     10    5     16     16.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
CASE Equipment:          RT                  1       .50
4 Standard Jump Jets:                        4      2.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 LL, 2 RL)
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TOTALS:                         14          77     39.99
Crits & Tons Left:                           1       .01

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,238,924 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    985 (old BV = 811)
Cost per BV2:      3,288.25
Weapon Value:      475 / 475 (Ratio = .48 / .48)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 13;  MRDmg = 12;  LRDmg = 12
BattleForce2:      MP: 4J,  Armor/Structure: 3/3
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: MM;  Point Value: 10
                   Specials: artA


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Yeah: The Endo-Steel seems out'a place.
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PostPosted: 21-Feb-2022 03:23    Post subject: Just Because You Can, Doesn't Mean … : Whitworth WTH-2X Reply to topic Reply with quote

I think it would be more effective in its design mission if you moved 1 ER-SL to the head, removed the other and replaced the CASE with a 2nd ton of ammo, so you have 10 shots before having to leave and reload, and if they crit your artillery platform before it gets 5 shots down-range, then you did something very wrong.
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PostPosted: 21-Feb-2022 11:08    Post subject: Just Because You Can, Doesn't Mean … : Whitworth WTH-2X Reply to topic Reply with quote

Confused I don't think I can call it a Whitworth if it dosen't have a laser in each arm; I feel bad about the head laser (& armor!), but how far can you reconfig things, and still claim it's "a model X?"
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PostPosted: 21-Feb-2022 17:16    Post subject: Re: Just Because You Can, Doesn't Mean … : Whitworth WTH-2X Reply to topic Reply with quote

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Confused I don't think I can call it a Whitworth if it dosen't have a laser in each arm; I feel bad about the head laser (& armor!), but how far can you reconfig things, and still claim it's "a model X?"


As much as you want, theoretically. But yes, I think there are certain things about units that make them what they are. If you change those "things", the unit no longer is what it once was. Deep...
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PostPosted: 21-Feb-2022 20:00    Post subject: Just Because You Can, Doesn't Mean … : Whitworth WTH-2X Reply to topic Reply with quote

A mech doesn't need a laser in both arms to be a Whitworth, the WTH-2 only has a ML in the head, along with it's 2 LRMs. Changing from 1 launcher in each Side Torso to a single launcher in the Right Torso is a bigger frame changer than the lasers and frankly 2 ER-SL aren't even a serious threat to a Locust, or infantry. There basically a waist of tonnage for all practical purposes and wasting a 1/2 ton to give the pilot the moral boost of having something for backup is better than wasting 5 more shots with his main weapon. Alternately you can replace the CASE with a 3-rd ER-SL in the Head and with 3 he could wade in after taking his 5 shots and may actually get a few crits in while being ignored for having such light weaponry remaining. Personally I would prefer to get 5 more missiles down range then have him leave. Landing a single HE round in the same hex as a target does more damage than 8 hits from those SL, and even a near miss from one of those monsters will do as much a 5 hits from those little flashlights.
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PostPosted: 17-Dec-2022 20:17    Post subject: Just Because You Can, Doesn't Mean … : Whitworth WTH-2X Reply to topic Reply with quote

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               BattleMech Technical Readout

Type/Model:    Whitworth WTH-2XX
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3062
Config:        Biped BattleMech
Rules:         Level 3, Standard design

Mass:          40 tons
Chassis:       Whitworth Type I Standard
Power Plant:   160 LTV Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets:     4 Whitworth Jetlift Standard Jump Jets
Jump Capacity: 120 meters
Armor Type:    Durallex Light Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:     
  2 ER Small Lasers
  1 Arrow IV System
Manufacturer:  Whitworth Company
  Location:    Dieron
Communications System:  Garret T-14
Targeting & Tracking System:  Garret D2j

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==Capabilities:==
Rugged (1) 1
Weak Legs -1


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Type/Model:    Whitworth WTH-2XX
Mass:          40 tons
Construction Options:  Fractional Accounting

Equipment:                                 Crits    Mass
Int. Struct.:  67 pts Standard               0      4.00
Engine:        160 Fusion                    6      6.00
   Walking MP:   4
   Running MP:   6
   Jumping MP:   4
Heat Sinks:     10 Single                    4       .00
 (Heat Sink Loc: 4 RT)
XL Gyro:                                     6      1.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors:                5      3.00
Actuators: L: Sh+UA+LA    R: Sh+UA+LA       14       .00
Armor Factor:  116 pts Ferro-Fibrous        14      6.47
 (Armor Crit Loc: 1 HD, 5 LA, 4 RA, 4 RT)

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Head:                      3          7     
   Center Torso:             12         16     
   Center Torso (Rear):                  5     
   L/R Side Torso:           10      12/12     
   L/R Side Torso (Rear):              5/5     
   L/R Arm:                   6      10/10     
   L/R Leg:                  10      17/17     

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Crits    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ER Small Laser         RA      2           1       .50
1 ER Small Laser         LA      2           1       .50
1 Arrow IV System        LT     10    5     16     16.00
  (Ammo Locations: 1 RT)
CASE Equipment:          RT                  1       .50
4 Standard Jump Jets:                        4      2.00
 (Jump Jet Loc: 2 LL, 2 RL)
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TOTALS:                         14          72     39.97
Crits & Tons Left:                           6       .03

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        3,405,594 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    952 (old BV = 784)
Cost per BV2:      3,577.3
Weapon Value:      443 / 443 (Ratio = .47 / .47)
Damage Factors:    SRDmg = 13;  MRDmg = 12;  LRDmg = 12
BattleForce2:      MP: 4J,  Armor/Structure: 3/3
                   Damage PB/M/L: 2/1/1,  Overheat: 0
                   Class: MM;  Point Value: 10
                   Specials: artA


I'm guessing it's easier to do the armor, and gyro, then to do the frame. Neutral
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