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PostPosted: 07-Apr-2018 06:31    Post subject: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

Oh man!! That's such a missed chance...

...I ought to have brought fluid guns to this gun fight!
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PostPosted: 07-Apr-2018 07:08    Post subject: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

I looked into it...
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PostPosted: 07-Apr-2018 11:11    Post subject: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

Scott,
Movement like this is why I used to only allow a maximum of 2 difference between pilot and gunnery skills. Guaranteed, I will fall before this is all over, but right now I need silly easy numbers on almost all my pilot checks...
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PostPosted: 07-Apr-2018 11:30    Post subject: Re: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

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Scott,
Movement like this is why I used to only allow a maximum of 2 difference between pilot and gunnery skills. Guaranteed, I will fall before this is all over, but right now I need silly easy numbers on almost all my pilot checks...


The fact we can't block hex rows means there's less potential rolls too...
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PostPosted: 07-Apr-2018 14:01    Post subject: Re: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

Pinhead wrote:
Scott,
Movement like this is why I used to only allow a maximum of 2 difference between pilot and gunnery skills. Guaranteed, I will fall before this is all over, but right now I need silly easy numbers on almost all my pilot checks...


I think there's a lot of things not ideal right now. I agree allowing the silly piloting checks with regular gunners isn't good. As a matter of fact, I'll probably update that rule for all my games. No more 1/5 for regular games. There should be some balance. Having a max difference of 2 sounds reasonable to me, and typically falls into what most do anyways.

chihawk's point is more problematic. For this type of game, not being able to block paths makes it too easy for the really quick 'Mechs. What's playing out is you fast folks either need to get unlucky on a skid roll, or someone needs to get lucky on hitting you. Short of that, I think it'll be tough to do much to stop you.

I could always make it so you can't move through a 'Mechs spot if you move before them. That's easy enough to do and provides some level of blocking, which is key to any race. So if you lose init, and 3 'Mechs line the row in front of you, you effectively can't get by them. If you win init and move last, where 'Mechs stand doesn't matter.

What would you guys think of that rule, not only for this game, but any of my games in general?
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PostPosted: 07-Apr-2018 14:21    Post subject: Re: The Race - Turn 1 Firing Reply to topic Reply with quote

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Well, that round was extraordinarily uneventful. If the way my dice rolled that entire phase is any indication, you all might want to be awfully careful of any skid checks this round! Very Happy

Also, that Thunder Fox... ouch. Xeroth is lucky he missed, because his 'Mech couldn't take 15 points of damage anywhere! Will be curious to see how many 'Mechs it can take out before someone wins or manages to punch through its hardened armor.


Ya that probably is going to be my best shot all game! My fault though as I had only planned on walking turn 1. When you notified me that I didn’t take the level change into account I should’ve kept a hex back instead of turning it into a run...would’ve hit him! Oh well
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PostPosted: 07-Apr-2018 14:34    Post subject: Re: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

That sounds good to me....

Thunder munitions are another option.... Twisted Evil


Mordel wrote:
Pinhead wrote:
Scott,
Movement like this is why I used to only allow a maximum of 2 difference between pilot and gunnery skills. Guaranteed, I will fall before this is all over, but right now I need silly easy numbers on almost all my pilot checks...


I think there's a lot of things not ideal right now. I agree allowing the silly piloting checks with regular gunners isn't good. As a matter of fact, I'll probably update that rule for all my games. No more 1/5 for regular games. There should be some balance. Having a max difference of 2 sounds reasonable to me, and typically falls into what most do anyways.

chihawk's point is more problematic. For this type of game, not being able to block paths makes it too easy for the really quick 'Mechs. What's playing out is you fast folks either need to get unlucky on a skid roll, or someone needs to get lucky on hitting you. Short of that, I think it'll be tough to do much to stop you.

I could always make it so you can't move through a 'Mechs spot if you move before them. That's easy enough to do and provides some level of blocking, which is key to any race. So if you lose init, and 3 'Mechs line the row in front of you, you effectively can't get by them. If you win init and move last, where 'Mechs stand doesn't matter.

What would you guys think of that rule, not only for this game, but any of my games in general?

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PostPosted: 07-Apr-2018 17:52    Post subject: Re: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

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What would you guys think of that rule, not only for this game, but any of my games in general?


I'd be perfectly fine with that both for this and future games, says the idiot in the stupidest 'Mech.

Also, if I miraculously survive to the half-way mark, I will start pulling off some stupider stunts.
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PostPosted: 07-Apr-2018 20:07    Post subject: Re: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

chihawek asked if those were a viable option the second I opened up registration. I did think about it, but seemed a tad cruel for a game where running around a figure eight was the objective.

Sir Henry wrote:

Thunder munitions are another option.... Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: 08-Apr-2018 10:37    Post subject: Re: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

Mordel wrote:
chihawek asked if those were a viable option the second I opened up registration. I did think about it, but seemed a tad cruel for a game where running around a figure eight was the objective.

Sir Henry wrote:

Thunder munitions are another option.... Twisted Evil



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PostPosted: 08-Apr-2018 10:41    Post subject: Re: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

Well, I am cruel. Just ask my kids...
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Mordel wrote:
chihawek asked if those were a viable option the second I opened up registration. I did think about it, but seemed a tad cruel for a game where running around a figure eight was the objective.

Sir Henry wrote:

Thunder munitions are another option.... Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: 09-Apr-2018 22:46    Post subject: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

yup. i knew i was borked.
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PostPosted: 10-Apr-2018 08:37    Post subject: Re: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

Vagabond wrote:
yup. i knew i was borked.


That Heavy PPC and the dude running around with the Clan ER PPC are both fast 'Mech killers, as they can rip a leg off in a single turn.

Having said that, you aren't out of it yet. You lose the benefits of being a quad a 1MP, but with your lower pilot and MASC, you can still motor around.
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PostPosted: 10-Apr-2018 09:09    Post subject: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

With only a slightly smaller bullseye on you, no doubt....
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PostPosted: 10-Apr-2018 19:28    Post subject: The Race - Registration Reply to topic Reply with quote

The proposed rule changes make sense. Initiative affects blocking for sure, and the skill spread makes sense if we're assuming that these are "regular" pilots recruited for this race instead of pilots specially trained for just this event and not much else.
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